How Taylor Swift's Music Spilled Over
In a totally shocking move, the decision-makers at Vogue put Taylor Swift inside their magazine but not outside their May issue. (Sarah Jessica Parker got those cover girl honors.) But if you like Swift and her music, the inside scoop makes this hefty fashion magazine worth every penny.
Not just because of Swift's rationale for her weakness for sparkly little dresses ("I just love them. Especially onstage, because I think it's kind of fun when the spotlight hits you and your dress, for a millisecond, blinds people.") Or because she seems so ... normal. Doing things like eating at Cracker Barrel and shopping at Urban Outfitters. Or how she hasn't lost her sense of humor, telling the magazine she didn't want her new condo to be so big she had to use MapQuest to find the kitchen.
But the story is great because of how Swift defines her accidental fame in the pop world. It's because of something she calls "spillover" -- like how her music "fills up country radio until it spills over into pop, and then up and over again into adult contemporary." So I think that it's safe to assume that her next album will do the same. I hope that means that before the pop remixes come out, the original tunes will have enough country flourishes, like banjo rolls and guitar picking and fiddle solos, to fill up country radio again. And if they spill over from there, so be it. As long as the country comes first.
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countryiscool says:
Totally shocking!!!!!
ME says:
Haha I bet Carrie never gets to be on so many magazines.
WHO CARES??????? says:
Let me guess,”ITS ALWAYS BEEN MY DREAM!”
Cassie says:
I love Taylor, but personally I hope her 3rd album is more like her first. Country should come first.
countryiscool says:
lol to Who Cares, and to “me,” Carrie has been on her share of mag covers, but since this is Alison’s story on precious Taylor, leave Carrie out of it. To Cassie, ALL of Taylor’s CD’s are country pop (as re others).
8charlotte says:
As usual,ME says,you are trying to stir trouble.For your info Carrie has been on numerous magazines and I am sure Carrie and Taylor could care less what the total number is.
homeslice says:
Am I horrible for hoping she loses any vocal or entertainer award at the ACMs? Call me crazy, but vocal awards should go to people who should be able to sing a phrase in tune without a machine.
NOT HAPPY! says:
Homeslice- You are NOT horrible!! I agree with your opinion 100%!!!!!!
D Trotter says:
I also saw those releases about the Vogue piece. But what caught my attention were these tidbits:
1.The photos of Taylor are shot by the legendary Annie Leibovitz, famous for her Rolling Stone covers of everyone from rock legends to Presidents. (Betcha one of Annie’s works of art,life-size and framed, will find itself somewhere into that new pad of Taylor’s.)
2.Taylor said her new album will be released in the fall. She also talked about how she writes songs based upon the person she is “today”. Doesn’t sound like there’s going to be much stuff about high school on there anymore.
ALJID says:
Maybe, it’s about college life now…with boys…LOL!
GalPal says:
D Trotter-”She also talked about how she writes songs based upon the person she is “today”. Doesn’t sound like there’s going to be much stuff about high school on there anymore”-right! She is 20 so I guess in the two years she has experienced alot. Give me a break-what would really improve Taylor Swift is singing lessons. The girl cannot sing and she is no longer a teenager-we will see if anything improves. I am hoping the ACM/CMT’s wake up and award the singing awards to those who can actually sing-what a concept!
Kenny says:
Spillover my ass. Intentionally coming out with a pop remix to an already pop song is not spillover, it is an direct attempt to get songs played on mainstream radios.
It’s about time she stops pretending to be country. She may have started out country but she is no longer in the format.
Robin says:
Oh, come on. If you compared her music to Spears, Gaga, The Pussy Cat Dolls, etc., etc., you would have to say her music still fits the pop country industry and it fits squarely in the contemporary country sub-genre. No, she can’t stay in key live and many of her recorded songs are so nasal I can’t sit through those either. But, she does fit in with Carrie Underwood, Rascal Flatts, Brad Paisley, Miranda Lambert more than she does the others.
D Trotter says:
GalPal, I guess we will see if 2 years make a difference in her lyrics when the album comes out, won’t we?
As far as the awards go, I’m much more interested in Taylor’s new music than whether she wins yet MORE awards (ALL the nominees are excellent, and Taylor really hasn’t had any new product out in a year-and-a-half); but if you want to continue with the same old boring attack that Swift doesn’t DESERVE to be nominated … well, here are the ACM’s actual stated CRITERIA FOR WINNING the awards:
FEMALE VOCALIST — “Factors to be considered include, but are not limited to:
Success at radio; sales of prerecorded music; success of music videos; live concert ticket sales; and vocal performances.” (Listed in that exact order. See what the very LAST one is?)
EOTY: same as above through “concert ticket sales”, then adding:
“Appearances on television; appearances in films; songwriting; writing and contributions to the country music industry.”
DO I have to tell you who was #1 in so many of those categories? Especially those where hard cold numbers cut through the opinions. And now you can add digital sales to those criteria — I’m sure the the ACM will.
NOT HAPPY! says:
You can’t compare her to Carrie Underwood, Rascal Flatts, Brad Paisley, or Miranda Lambert, because she can’t hold a tune in a bucket compared to the amazing vocals of each of these artists. Plus their songs have a deep emotion or meaning and are not about all the boys that have done them wrong! SORRY, BUT TAYLOR REMIXES ALL OF HER SONGS AND SHE IS POP ONLY IN MY OPINION AND NOT COUNTRY!
Tim says:
I agree with you Kenny, totally. I just read where she is performing with a choir on the ACMs. Guess she needs help covering the fact that she can not sing live. I’m sure her label didn’t want more awful reviews like she got for her Grammy performance with Stevie Nicks.
1cathie says:
But the story is great because of how Swift defines her accidental fame in the pop world. It’s because of something she calls “spillover” — like how her music “fills up country radio until it spills over into pop, and then up and over again into adult contemporary.”
REMIX, REMIX, REMIX oops I guess I accidentally remembered the facts. lol
I read that Taylor will be performing her song “Change”
guess she’s telling us all what the results are going to be. This verse says it all.
Tonight we’ll stand and get off our knees
Fight for what we’ve worked for
All these years
The battle was long
It’s the fight of our lives
But we’ll stand up, champions tonight
It was the night things changed
NOT HAPPY! says:
Maybe this choir will drown out her voice completely and we will NOT have to hear her at all!
Tiffany13 says:
Taylor’s country. Peroid. I dont think she will ever turn over to pop. Country music is what she does, what she’s good at and where her heart and fans are. Pop music comes to Taylor. Taylor doesnt make her music for pop. It’s country.
Ygrove says:
When You release your music to pop and do all your business with pop,you are pop.Her target is all the numbers,and that sure wouldn’t be country.When you can brag about winning a VMA,or a Top Grammy in an all genre spot,that would seem to be an indicator.When asked about all the screaming Kids,The Beatles said they had three types of fans,those that want to see them,those that come to hear their songs and those that came because everyone else was.With Taylors vocals,I wonder about her fans.The Beatles made fun of the screams,Taylor stands and soaks them up..
Robin says:
NOT HAPPY! - her songs belong with those pop country artists more than those pop artists. It doesn’t mean that her talent is comparable. It means that their genre is the same and their music “fits together”.
homeslice says:
Damn, they really don’t want to hear the truth about Taylor do they?
Covergirl Taylor Swift says:
haha what a funny read these blog comments are…JMO…
I am not sure the exact total of covers Taylor Swift has been on but, it is closer to 50 than it is to 40!
Taylor the model is in high demand - and she will continue to be on
covers for quite sometime! The reaction from Taylor Swift fans on the
latest Vogue pictures has been overwhelmingly (gagaisk) is that a word?
Tay’s fans continue to love everything about her. The magazine covers
and pictures are all added bonuses to them and to me too!
ALJID says:
So D Trotter just said singing is not important in the profession of singing..Well said..Kudos for the choir. Swift needs all the help she can get to cover up her bad live vocals. But still, if she is going to have another off night AGAIN as her fans will say which I think they would, I expect the following reasons:
1. She was sick. (Crap, can someone give her some vitamins coz she’s always sick!)
2. She was nervous. (Gosh she is performing in front of the stars of country music! Give her a pass!)
3. There were sound issues.(The microphone was not working properly or something.)
4. She couldn’t hear herself because of the choir backing her up. (Remember the CMA disaster?)
5. Her dress weighed her down. (It’s not easy to control your breathing when something is dragging you to down.)
But honestly, I am hoping that she comes back strong with a decent vocal performance. But reality tells me otherwise…Sad..Taylor should go out there it and prove to the world, “Hey! I can stay in tune! Just watch and listen!”
Ygrove says:
Taylor Is the CMA female vocalist and EOTY,I think she should just stand up there and show her Peers just why she gets all those awards.Don’t fret,she will have some kind of gimmick at the ACMs to cover up her vocals.
D Trotter says:
ALJID, I choose words carefully. If you claim I said something, don’t make up your own sentences and ascribe them to me. I defy you to show me ANY post where I have said, “Singing is not important in the profession of singing”.
What I have said is that great TECHNICAL SINGING ABILITY is rarely found in musical artists who become country/rock/folk /blues or, pop musical,legends. The Music industry is NOT about some Junior High vocal competition!
Great performances (EOTY stuff) require great stagemanship, charisma and passion MORE than they do great vocal ability. Some classic examples:
PERFORMANCE: ELVIS VS PAT BOONE
Just prior to the birth of rock n’ roll, Pat Boone was the American Idol of his day, the smoothest, most polished crooner anywhere — yet he was blown right off the charts by a young truck driver from Memphis named Elvis. As his career developed, Elvis became an outstanding singer, but that WASN’T the case in 1953-56, the years he CHANGED EVERYTHING! Back then Elvis was a raw, primal screamer and a wild man performer who received more criticism of his singing than Taylor ever has.
Fast forward nearly 60 years later: it’s NOT Pat Boone weeknight on American Idol, it’s Elvis week! (And not a single one of the Idols even came close to matching him.) Elvis OWNED the stage; he had PERFORMANCE, PASSION, and a CONNECTION to the audience — so MUCH more important than pretty vocals.
VISIONARIES/SONGWRITERS
Two of the most significant singer/songwriters of the last 50 years, Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash had very limited vocal ability; in fact, they were both about as euphonious as a cattle drive. Amusingly, they even tried to harmonize TOGETHER, on Dylan’s “Girl from the North Country” — a performance that makes the Swift-Nicks duet sound like a pair of angels by comparison!
Yet when seen in the larger picture of their entire careers, such a misstep doesn’t diminish the importance of their amazing contributions to the history of music one bit; if anything,it makes them all the more human. But their importance is WHAT they wrote, how it connected to people and the HONESTY (not the prettiness) of their vocals.
The statements in my previous post, which apparently amused you but (sadly) eluded your comprehension, were NOT OPINIONS — they are the the AMC’s FORMAL WRITTEN GUIDELINES for their (1)Female Vocalist of the Year and (2)EOTY Awards. Go back, re-read them, tell me what you are having hard time grasping. But the simple truth is this:
This is the RECORDING INDUSTRY. It rewards artists whose RECORDS are loved by millions, are creative, forge new followings of fans, dominate the radio, and achieve extraordinary sales. The EOTY rewards PERFORMANCE — ENTERTAINERS who put on shows that attract sellouts, cause near hysteria in the aisles.
homeslice says:
There’s a difference between having a scratchy tone and being out right tone deaf.
K says:
How do Taylor’s songs “spilover?” She openly remixes for pop radio.
I’m curious how her new album can be diferent from the last. From what I can gather, all she has done in the past two years is win boatloads of awards and sing the same songs about high school relationships.
If she claims she has experienced such growth, why did she recently release two songs along that same vien (”Today Was A Fairytle,” “Jump Then Fall.”)
As for Entertainer Of The Year? Last year was her time. This year she has been fairly low-key.
All her fans seem to think she will be legendary one day. She might be, but keep in mind that someone else will take over her position at the top soon enough. Ten years ago Shania was the hot artist, then Garth, then Leann Rimes then Rascal Flatts, then Carrie Underwood, then Taylor, and now Lady A is begining to top her.
She could stay relevant if she shows growth, but there is no possible way to tell if she has had a lasting impact on the industry. If she’s still making successful albums and selling out stadiums in 20 years that will be a different story.
D Trotter says:
Interesting. Carrie has several recent blogs about her, including one dated more recently than this one, talking about how she has a chance to reach a milestone by being the first woman to win the eoty twice if she wins Sunday.
Every comments on there is positive. Not a single Taylor fan has made a single negative comment on that blog.
So why are there so many well-known Carrie fans on HERE, all making their same old repetitive negative remarks about Taylor?
Nothing better to do? Is being negative more fun than being positive and supportive of their favorite singer? Are they that terrified that Taylor might win some major awards, even when her last album was released way back in 2008?
J.J. says:
I am guessing the reason Taylor fans are not frequenting the Carrie blog posts and making negative remarks is that no one questions Carrie’s talent. What’s someone going to say…Carrie can’t sing? Hard to find anything to pick on.
D Trotter says:
So that’s your rationale? You make negative comments about Taylor because she has flaws, but Carrie is so perfect in all ways that she’s beyond any negative critique?
kayko says:
J.J, sorry to burst your bubble but I’m not a Carrie fan but you won’t find me on her blogs bashing her. I don’t need to, I believe in “live and let live” just because I really don’t care for her music doesn’t mean I have the need to run her down on every one of her blogs. It just makes no sense to me. I haven’t been to CMT.com for quite but i can see little has changed, the bashers still bash. Oh well.
J.J. says:
What in the world are you going on about? What makes you think my bubble would be burst because you’re not a Carrie fan? And I think you must have me confused with someone else…maybe another poster? I did not, nor have I ever blasted Taylor Swift. I didn’t even mention her in my post. You seem to be doing your share of bashing here and all for something “you think” I said. I offered a scenario to a question from another poster. If not for that question, I wouldn’t have posted anything. And to the other person who commented about my post - your comment was equally baffling to me. I DID NOT bash Taylor Swift. I simply made an observation about Carrie. YOU both decided to read into it. If you’re not sure what someone means, then ask to clarify before you jump down their throats. Jeez!
D Trotter says:
j.j., YOU were responding to my query as to WHY there were so many Carrie fans who felt the need to post negative comments on this blog about Taylor. Even though you said nothing specifically negative about Taylor in your post, it certainly seemed you were implying it was because Taylor could be criticized.
Even if you now saying you were only answering HALF the question — that Taylor’s fans CAN’T find anything negative to say about Carrie (!!) — that is precisely what Kayko was refuting. He just doesn’t believe that it’s necessary to tear down one artist in order to praise your particular favorite.
Which was kinda my original question.
Walt says:
R.I.P. Talor Swift!
LOOK OUT BELOW!
Taylor is cooked!
2010 ACM’s- 0-5, 0-fer, ZIP,ZERO,ZILCH,NADA,BLANKED!!!
Walt says:
THANK GOD!
Though there was a fan component to the voting, country music delivered a LONG OVERDUE message to the talentless brat, Taylor Swift. This girl, who shamelessly promotes herself and begs fans to vote for her wherever she appears, has had the CM industry pissing all over themselves, showering her with accolades, (not for her vocal abilities, God knows) but because they saw an opportunity to cash in on her tweenie fans. Every award thery gave her cheapened those awards for the truly talented country stars who came before her, because it looked like the $$ meant more than anything. I’m sure the real country artists made their feelings known to the CM execs. that “enough-was-enough!”
That goes double for CM radio who pimped that girl non-stop, so much so that an ad that ran during tonight’s ACM (for Chicago country radio 99.5 FM)…actually prodded callers to watch and let them know when “Taylor Swi….errr, whoever wins the EOTY award! Talk about cajones!….and overt bias!
Country has some REAL and ‘legit’ stars like Underwood, Lambert, etc. who they would be wise to treat with the same gushing pride they lavished on Swift, who ALWAYS turns around and delivers a thin, weak, off-key performance at the various shows, making fools of those who pushed her to the forefront of this genre….or ANY musical genre that her record label would re-mix her crap to suit.
It’s hard not to get REAL ‘personal’ here, but I’d really like to know just what went on for so many people to be getting behind Swift, while much more talented people toil in hole-in-the-wall bars and coffee shops for lunch money. Her rise was so ludicrous it defies an adequate adjective to describe just how ridiculous it was. ‘Country’ my A$$!
D Trotter says:
Walt, I’m so happy for you. Certainly your world is a much, much better place now!
With Taylor Swift not around, it should be so much easier to deal with:
Terrorists; Loved ones under fire in distant lands; Unemployment going through the roof; The Economy going through the basement; Fuel shortages; Farms disappearing; One natural disaster after another; The Ozone layer; Unaffordable Health Insurance …and College Educations … and houses … and groceries.
Now that we have REAL Country artists … like ummmm ….ummmm…, well, you know … it’s all good now.
Always Elvis says:
Last time I saw Taylor at an awards show she was so off key. After last night, I have come to the conclusion that she can NOT sing or carry a note. I am getting sick and tired of her throwing her hair all around. She looks like a jerk. Carrie all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Taylor will not last long in this business. She is NOT country at all.. Amen!!!!
Robin says:
D Trotter - let’s not forget all the chemtrails and HARP.
HEY! says:
The best part of last nights award show was: TAYLOR SWIFT GETTING NO AWARDS!!!! NOW IF WE CAN GET HER TO STOP SINGING LIVE!!!!
S says:
I agree that the best part of the show was Taylor leaving with NO awards. Hopefully this means the ACM voters are finally waking up and getting a clue.
Lyle says:
To all the Taylor fans reading this: Don’t make excuses for why Taylor got shut out. Taylor was so high on that pedestal that the fall back to reality is often quite a jolt. Hopefully she’ll learn a lesson or two from this experience. And her fans might learn a little lesson in what goes around, comes around. Of all the fans of any artist I’ve been appalled by the lack of humility. But I believe the fans take their que from the artist. Taylor started out humble and grateful for her success but it didn’t take long before the sense of entitlement kicked in. Her speeches became a joke - disingenuous with mock gratitude. It’s probably not her fault, entirely. She just got swept away and started to believe she really WAS better than everyone else. So last night was a good lesson. Just when you think you’ve got it all, God reminds you that you don’t.
D Trotter says:
With the exception of Robin — who by the way is a much more eloquent advocate for Ms Underwood than the rest of you — I haven’t heard so much vindictive trash-talking, bragging and gloating this side of a summer basketball game in Harlem.
As whiny a bunch of bad losers y’all are when Taylor wins awards, your inability to show any good sportsmanship when your favorite wins is more immature than anything Taylor ever wrote, even at 12. (I sincerely hope none of you have young children who play little league or soccer.)
“Always Elvis”, you say you’re “TIRED” of Swift throwing her hair around, you say she looks like “a jerk”. Yet you name yourself after someone who threw way more than his hair around when he was young; they even censored Elvis from the waist down on TV.
Younger fans like that stuff. And it seems like a lot of them loved Taylor’s performance at the AMC Awards.
MTV.com described it as “Triumphant” and a “rousing gospel-tinged performance”.
Celebuz also used the word “triumphant” and called it a “show-stopping performance with a rousing finale”.
There were so many positives about the AMC show. Long overdue props for Miranda, the opening Fogerty tribute, Carrie’s milestones, Zac oversea for our boys in uniform … and so much fine music!
But for “S” and “HEY!”, the BEST thing was just a negative — Taylor NOT winning. And Kyle waxes morality lessons and philosophy about the humbling defeat of a 20-year-old-girl who thought she could fly and thus fell to her doom.
See here’s my problem with all this. Taylor is like a million watt Halogen bulb. She never regrets taking chances, she never makes excuses, she never looks back in anger. She has so MUCH energy and spirit, she could light up Nashville in a blackout.
Do you REALLY think she’s just gonna quit?
More likely she’s gonna get more determined and work even harder on that third album coming out in the Fall.
“S” says the AMC voters finally WOKE UP. What’s that mean? The AMC has NEVER voted for Taylor. In 4 years, she’s been nominated something like 15 times, won some “Crystal Milestone Award” thing for bringing in a new fan base. Only other win was 2009 Album of the Year for “Fearless”.
(What were they gonna do? Ignore the album that sat at #1 for like the entire year?)
Did anybody seriously think she was going to win anything?
Female vocalist? After the Grammy backlash?
Song of the year/ video of the year? Taylor’s album was nearly a year-and-a-half old. She had no real new product.
Her nominated song and video — “You Belong to Me” needs NO excuses, Lyle. “Love Story” and “YBTM” were the #1 and #2 songs most dominant songs in the entire Country last year (any genre), both in radio airplay and digital sales. Same for the videos — not for nothing did “YBTM” beat out Beyonce and cause Kanye to implode at the VMA’s. In terms of song construction and memorable hooks, Pop doesn’t get any better. Same for the video — a mini-movie that would do Hollywood proud.
But it IS a POP SONG! I’m not sure WHY the ACM nominated it. Of all her tunes, “YBTM” wasn’t even included in the Country singles chart most of the year. No way it was going to win Country Song of the Year at the AMC.
When I heard they were going to fan voting for EOTY, that was her biggest chance, with her legions of fans, even though Carrie had a new album out (and a new engagement ring). But it turns out that they used some weird combo of academy members and internet votes, so who knows what that was about. Personally, I am happy Carrie became the first female to win it twice. She’s deserving.
As for Swift, if I were her, I would just skip the AMC’s from now on, join Zac over there playing for the boys in uniform.
That performance of hers would probably get those boys hyped up enough to win the war in short order.
D Trotter says:
Sorry, I meant to say “You Belong WITH Me” or “YBWM” above. C
lifeisgood says:
Ahhhh - so much to trash and so little time.
Thanks D Trotter, your posts are always entertaining. You could go “green” and harness some of that hot air. Maybe an official windmill blower.
Anyway, I bow to your ability to say so much and mean so little.
K says:
I was so proud of all the classy and talented women who won ACM awards. Miranda is a talented writer and musician, and she is extremely humble, sweet, and gracious as well. It’s refreshing to see an artist who is still shocked and honored by her success.
Carrie gave a beautiful performance, and she definatly deserved her honors. She was very gracious and supportive of her fellow women and other nominees. As Miranda has said, the country music community is one big family.
Lady A gave a decent performance, and they more than earned the Vocal Group trophy. They have had monster success with “Need You Now,” but they still seem extremely humble and grounded by it all.
As for Taylor? I didn’t enjoy her performance, and she needs to polish her performance skills. How many times can you rip off a dress and awkwardly flip your hair around?
D Trotter,
You mentioned earlier that Carrie blogged about the ETOY award. She only blogs through her fanclub, and has never endorsed herself at concerts or made any videos or posters promoting herself to the public.
The fact that I’m an Underwood fan isn’t even relevant. This blog is about Taylor and her “spillover” songs (remixes).
“When I heard they were going to fan voting for EOTY, that was her biggest chance, with her legions of fans, even though Carrie had a new album out (and a new engagement ring). But it turns out that they used some weird combo of academy members and internet votes, so who knows what that was about. Personally, I am happy Carrie became the first female to win it twice. She’s deserving.”
So, Taylor is promoted in the US and overseas, and she has done a world tour and she STILL didn’t win? She could’ve won by a landslide if the fan votes mattered so much. You could only vote ONCE per phone or computer before the show and ONCE by phone or email during the show. We don’t know how the votes were split, so how could you cry foul? It could be 50/50, 50/30, 50/40, or anywhere in between. Kenny Chesney won this award the first year of fan voting; why didn’t anyone have a problem then?
lifeisgood says:
Keep it comin’ D…you’re crackin’ me up.
D Trotter says:
“K”, What comment of mine said “Carrie blogged about the eoty”? Tell me the date and time of it.
If you mean my post on 4/17,at 7:26pm, MY comment said Carrie has several blogs ABOUT her …you know, on CMT? … written by Alison? … including an earlier one about her potential milestone eoty …and that not a single Taylor fan had, as of that point, posted even one negative comment on that blog.
THEN, I wondered so many well-known Carrie fans, like yourself, feel the need to seek out Taylor’s blogs to make NEGATIVE comments. You might answer that one yourself.
This is a pretty old blog. There’s tons of new ones about Carrie and the ACM’s where you could say all kinds of positive things about your hero. What is it about Taylor that makes you nervous you have to seek out blogs about her and look to start arguments?
K says:
D Trotter,
I noticed you STILL haven’t answered my original question, despte the fact that I have posted it several times. I said, how is Taylor going to improve? How does a spillover not equate to remixing?
I didn’t realize you were reffering to Alison’s blogs about Carrie. So, a woman had the chance to make history and it’s news? That’s pretty important and worthy of attention, dontcha think?
Alision has written blogs about Taylor for her accomplishments as well; it’s not just Carie.
TAYLOR SWIFT made 17 million in 2008: No mention of any other artists, icluding many who earned more than her.
TAYLOR SWIFT surprises her millionth ticket holder: Oh, yeah, Brad, Rascal Flatts, and even Carrie managed to do this very same thing (which included rewarding the fan), and they don’t get singled out.
How TAYLOR SWIFT is just like Mongomery Gentry: Right, because she’s the only worthy country artist that helped changed the format. How about bestowing this praise on Carrie, Rascal Flatts, Shania, Kenny and Garth?
How TAYLOR twittered, blogged or got yet another honor that isn’t particularly special or uniqe? Regular folks accomplish great things everyday, but this girl is treated like gold everytime she accomplishes something that’s been done before.
I don’t seek out Taylor’s blogs; I see them everywhere without having to look. If I find one that I want to respond to, I do so. Again, I responded about remixing and how I didn’t care for her performance and you turned into a big show of overblown drama.
timcum says:
D Trotter said “When I heard they were going to fan voting for EOTY, that was her biggest chance, with her legions of fans, even though Carrie had a new album out (and a new engagement ring). But it turns out that they used some weird combo of academy members and internet votes, so who knows what that was about.”
That’s exactly how it has worked since the ACM’s went to fan voting for EOTY. That’s how it worked when Kenny Chesney won it two years ago and when Carrie Underwood won it last year. Personally, I’m against fan voting but doubt it will change.
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D Trotter says:
I don’t pay pay much attention to the ACM to be honest, so when I heard the EOTY would be fan-voted, I actually thought that was something new they were introducing (thanks for the explanation, Timcum).
Taylor? I said above, I had no expectation she would win anything at the ACM’s, for the reasons I stated. When I learned the EOTY Award would be fan-voted, however, that’s the first I thought Swift MIGHT win that particular award, even w/o any new music released, since her fans are legion AND she’s won just about every other award of that nature this year.
Tom O’Neil’s Gold Derby column provided the info for the part of my post you guys keep quoting. He described “the complex voting method used to determine the winners in some categories … While most ACM Awards were determined exclusively by member’s votes … entertainer of the year (which was widely expected to go to Taylor Swift) was decided by a combo of academy members and internet votes.”
So that process sounded a little different than a pure fan vote to me.
D Trotter says:
“K”, First you completely misread my statement and launch off into some irrelevant babble.
Then you admit you misunderstood but you aggressively add a comment about Carrie’s milestone being newsworthy, “dontcha think?” Sure, I do — that’s why i mentioned it as a good place to go and make positive comments! Show me where I said it wasn’t important.
Then you claim the reason you are here being negative instead of praising your idol Carrie is that you see blogs on Taylor everywhere without looking. (Try scrolling away — works for me!)Well, here’s my count: Of the last 140 blogs posted, there have been 9 stories with pics about Carrie (or 1 per every 15.5 blogs) and 6 on Taylor (or 1 per every 23). So, yeah, I think you have positive options, you just enjoy coming here being negative.
THEN you blame me for not answering your “original question” despite that you “posted it several times”. (Well, TA-TA-TA! Aren’t we huffy today?) And your original question WAS: “How is Taylor going to improve”?
Study more? Get a fitness coach? How would I know?
First of all, tell me where that question is addressed to me? (Posted several times no less.) I do see one post that has you going on about how YOU think she’s NOT capable of improving, but that post wasn’t addressed to me and, frankly, didn’t interest me.
Taylor’s 20! She’s a songwriting prodigy who has said she wants to have a career where she constantly surprises people. She keeps her mind open (nice quality) and listens to all kinds of music. She has amazed the music industry with her accomplishments, done more in 4 years than most artists do in a lifetime.
And you want to know “how she’ll improve? The question’s insulting … and more than a little ludicrous. You should be asking yourself how YOU will improve so, in your life, you can accomplish maybe one-thousandth of what she has already.
And enough of the “spillover” question too. Also boring. Spillover, crossover — the FACT is nobody has had more songs that began as top country hits, then crossed over into the pop chart top 10 list. Nobody. Not Shania, not LeAnn Rimes.
And it had little to do with remixing. Swift crossed over with songs BEFORE they got remixed; she did it with songs that NEVER got remixed!
So you’re just groping. AND you’re trying to make it sound like it’s wrong; there’s nothing wrong with experimenting with your songs. I don’t care if she makes a polka out of one.
Hey! the “Think Tim McGraw” polka! Cool!
K says:
“Then you admit you misunderstood but you aggressively add a comment about Carrie’s milestone being newsworthy, “dontcha think?” Sure, I do — that’s why i mentioned it as a good place to go and make positive comments! Show me where I said it wasn’t important.”
I thought you were implying it at first, but after I understood what you meant it became clear you weren’t doing so.
“Then you claim the reason you are here being negative instead of praising your idol Carrie is that you see blogs on Taylor everywhere without looking. (Try scrolling away — works for me!)Well, here’s my count: Of the last 140 blogs posted, there have been 9 stories with pics about Carrie (or 1 per every 15.5 blogs) and 6 on Taylor (or 1 per every 23). So, yeah, I think you have positive options, you just enjoy coming here being negative.”
First of all, I don’t appreciate that you’re insinuating Carrie is my “idol.” Yes, I love her music, and I’m a huge fan. But I’ve never met her, and I don’t claim to know her.
Second of all, I don’t care about the number of any blogs on Carrie or Taylor. I have voiced my opinion on most of her blogs anyway, and there is no real discussion going on in any of her blogs.
Taylor’s blogs are always active; why wouldn’t I comment?
I haven’t commented on any recent Swift blogs; I don’t go on every one and spread negativity, and you seem to think. If I wanted to do that, I wouldn’t pick out ONE specific blog to comment on with ONE central point (remixing) that you made into something completely different.
The question of improvement was posted to you, only after you chose to imply I was just coming here to ramble on. No, you don’t know how she’ll improve. But, judging by her recent material, I don’t think she has (and again, you chose to make it into some big issue).
Taylor had her first bit of crossover success with a remix, if I’m not mistaken. “Teardrops On My Guitar” and “Our Song” then “You Belong With Me” and “Love Story.”
I’ve never heard a “country” version of one of her songs on pop radio.
If remixing has little to do with her success, why weren’t “Tim Mcgraw,” “Fifteen” and “White Horse” huge pop hits? They weren’t pop; they were considered too country.
By the way, please don’t reply to this. You continue to berate my comments and I don’t get an ounce of worthwhile discussion when going back and forth with you. If all you see is negativity, instead of looking for points of discussion, why bother?
D Trotter says:
K, you have a deal. Don’t address my comments, I’ll return the favor.
carder says:
im a big fann of taylor swift and i love her music
Dripable says:
Thats some forthcoming read…